Finally someone brave enough to point out that Christians can’t agree amongst themselves about various points of their religion.
Dobson accuses Obama of ‘distorting’ Bible
By ERIC GORSKI, AP Religion Writer
“Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?” Obama said. “Would we go with James Dobson’s or Al Sharpton’s?” referring to the civil rights leader.
I think I’ve heard Obama’s original speech that this was pulled from, and I don’t think that he cited examples of Christians that wanted other forms of Christianity removed from schools because their children were being pressured to convert. If he didn’t, I really think he should have. Because many scream out “oh! oh! evil atheist!” when separation of church and state comes up, I think it’s important to understand that keeping religion out of public school is not just a benefit to non-religious people. In a rant I wrote about a chain letter, I cited two examples of Christians who wanted other Christians to back the hell off.
Dobson took aim at examples Obama cited in asking which Biblical passages should guide public policy — chapters like Leviticus, which Obama said suggests slavery is OK and eating shellfish is an abomination, or Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount, “a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application.”
Woo!
“Folks haven’t been reading their Bibles,” Obama said.
Woo Woo! You tell ‘em Obama!
Dobson and Minnery accused Obama of wrongly equating Old Testament texts and dietary codes that no longer apply to Jesus’ teachings in the New Testament.
What, you’re throwing out the old Testament? Does that mean the Ten Commandments are no longer followed either? Ok, fine. Let’s stick with the New Testament.
1 Timothy 2:9 and 1 Peter 3:3 both say women may not braid their hair, wear gold, pearls, or expensive clothing.
1 Timothy 4:1-3 Says vegetarians are heeding the devil by not eating meat.
Luke 14:26 – If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 15:4 – God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
“I think he’s deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, his own confused theology,” Dobson said.
If there was just one traditional understanding of the Bible there wouldn’t be so many denominations within Christianity.
“… He is dragging biblical understanding through the gutter.”
It could use a good analytical review.
Dobson reserved some of his harshest criticism for Obama’s argument that the religiously motivated must frame debates over issues like abortion not just in their own religion’s terms but in arguments accessible to all people.
He said Obama, who supports abortion rights, is trying to govern by the “lowest common denominator of morality,” labeling it “a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution.”
No, dumbshit. He’s saying that in order for something to be Constitutional, a law or public act must have a secular purpose, have a primary effect that neither advances nor inhibits religion, and not result in excessive governmental entanglement with religion. It’s called the Lemon test. And if fruitcakes can interpret the Constitution then I need to move them WAY up on the evolutionary chart from your knuckle-dragging self.
“Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?” Dobson said. “What he’s trying to say here is unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe.”
That’s right, appeal to the emotion. Oh, but I must protect the tiny babies. It’s my job to protect the unborn. No, it’s a politician’s job to serve the living people. People should be able to do as they wish with their own body. If you don’t believe in abortion – don’t have one!








June 24th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Obama has won me over. I was only voting for the person with the (D) behind his name before, but now I’m an active Obama supporter. Hooray for religious freedom! And huzzah for the Constitution!
June 24th, 2008 at 7:11 am
“don’t believe in abortion , don’t have one” is that like, don’t believe in shooting babykilling abortionists don’t shoot one?
SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.
June 24th, 2008 at 7:38 am
That is the very definition of pro-choice, the one that the rights are actively ignoring. That’s the decision that makes me pro-choice, the RIGHT for a woman to make the decision for herself.
As the saying goes, keep the laws out of my uterus.
Sarahs latest blog post… Light Me Up
June 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Don, if you don’t know the difference between aborting a zygote and murdering a doctor you really worry me. What exactly is reciting that prayer supposed to do?
June 24th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Sarah, EXACTLY! I don’t understand people that act like pro-choice harms their family or them personally. If they’re worried about their own daughters then they should talk to their kids about their beliefs not create laws preventing others from it.
June 24th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Don… I noticed something many of you evangelicals do is attempt to trick people into salvation by telling them to recite that prayer without preamble. That doesn’t make them believers or followers of Christ. It just makes you shut up and go away. So if you have been sitting back, feeling proud of yourself for all the people you have convinced to say those words, first feel shame for pride is a sin, then feel sadness, because most of them would still go to your hell… if hell existed. It doesn’t, so I’m not worried about anybody. But if hell did exist, you haven’t saved anybody from it.
Faith is a personal matter between the individual and his god(s). You should practice keeping it that way.
June 24th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
That’s my Erica…I was wondering when you were going to get to the good stuff.
June 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
AMEN!!!
First time to your blog (courtesy of all mediocre) and this post leaves me giving you a standing ovation! Bravo!
I am a Christian with a deeply personal faith in Jesus Christ – but I do not yoke myself with the likes of Dobson. I do believe in free will. I do believe in keeping the laws and God separate.
ramblin’ reds latest blog post… ♫ ♩ Duh-na-na-nuh…She’s a Very Freaky Girl..♫ ♩
July 6th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Angel, smarmoofus sent me the link to the article. You want more of my rantyness – keep the articles flowing!
July 6th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
ramblin’ red, thanks so much for the standing ovation.
*takes a bow*
Thanks for the backing. I really don’t get it when people talk about how great this country is because of it’s freedoms, but then they want to make all kinds of restrictions based on their personal beliefs. Makes no kind of sense to me.